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		<title>By: Ark Lady</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ark Lady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 06:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL Poor Kathryn! Glad to hear that you are calling. Your cat might be bored so you need to mix it up a bit or brush up on techniques. I am glad your are working with someone and are going to follow up on the issue--kudos for you!

*click, click* Good owner. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL Poor Kathryn! Glad to hear that you are calling. Your cat might be bored so you need to mix it up a bit or brush up on techniques. I am glad your are working with someone and are going to follow up on the issue&#8211;kudos for you!</p>
<p>*click, click* Good owner. <img src='http://www.arkanimals.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 16:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The guilt I feel at this moment!  I have been less than compliant.  My cats started spraying in the hhouse last spring.  I finally called in a behaviorist and one of the tasks was to keep their minds stimulated and teach impulse control.  I choose clicker training and it was going great!  Then one of the cats (the one spraying the most) stopped cooperating with training.  He initially loved it but after a few weeks wouldn&#039;t respond.  All I can think is to use a higher value treat but he is on a restricted diet (duck and green pea) and I&#039;m extremely afraid to give him anything else (and he does not consider that food high value!).  So I gradually quit the training sessions.  The spraying has lessened a great deal with all the other things I&#039;ve done but I feel guilty because the other two cats were having fun.

So my lack of compliance boils down to frustration that training ran into a road block and I felt at a loss to find away around.  I&#039;m writing my behaviorist today to see if we can do something to get back on track!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The guilt I feel at this moment!  I have been less than compliant.  My cats started spraying in the hhouse last spring.  I finally called in a behaviorist and one of the tasks was to keep their minds stimulated and teach impulse control.  I choose clicker training and it was going great!  Then one of the cats (the one spraying the most) stopped cooperating with training.  He initially loved it but after a few weeks wouldn&#8217;t respond.  All I can think is to use a higher value treat but he is on a restricted diet (duck and green pea) and I&#8217;m extremely afraid to give him anything else (and he does not consider that food high value!).  So I gradually quit the training sessions.  The spraying has lessened a great deal with all the other things I&#8217;ve done but I feel guilty because the other two cats were having fun.</p>
<p>So my lack of compliance boils down to frustration that training ran into a road block and I felt at a loss to find away around.  I&#8217;m writing my behaviorist today to see if we can do something to get back on track!</p>
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		<title>By: Ark Lady</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ark Lady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 14:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, it doesn&#039;t really matter to me but since the client has stated they have a goal (correct behavior problems) it is a bit odd when they are not compliant.

You are right when it comes to the trainer&#039;s perspective however. I usually explain what people need to do to attain a goal to progress at a certain rate. If they don&#039;t adhere to the program I usually know.

Sometimes they don&#039;t fess up. For instance, I had an aggression case last year that was pretty extreme and difficult due to the dog&#039;s temperament, breed, and household dynamics with the established dog.

However, about the third lesson I had to ask the client how much she was working on the strategies I outlined. She was only working on them three days a week which was not working.

We outlined what she could do and then I didn&#039;t see her as frequently because she had to hit specific goals before we could progress.

Bottom line, her behavior problems probably could have been extinguished in 12-16 weeks instead of the six months it took.

She was thrilled, me? Not so much because my goal is to extinguish that type of issue as quickly and as effectively as possible. There were lots of complications in this case--but ultimately the goal was achieved. 

So that is the good news because that is my job. I also had to laugh when the client was reading books on training and told me that they said the same thing that I was teaching her.

LOL 

You gotta laugh about it but I don&#039;t always tell people my background.

Bottom line? Communication is key but so is sticking to the program outlined by your professional. So glad that you brought up the medical example--even the veterinary clinics see the same things.

My former client also was not compliant with the directives from the veterinarian--spent lots of money and visits because she wasn&#039;t.

Go figure!

PS I give my clients treats (and sometimes candy) but they also get squirted with water (after we establish a good rapport). This makes them laugh and get going a bit. It really is the human clients that need all the work. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, it doesn&#8217;t really matter to me but since the client has stated they have a goal (correct behavior problems) it is a bit odd when they are not compliant.</p>
<p>You are right when it comes to the trainer&#8217;s perspective however. I usually explain what people need to do to attain a goal to progress at a certain rate. If they don&#8217;t adhere to the program I usually know.</p>
<p>Sometimes they don&#8217;t fess up. For instance, I had an aggression case last year that was pretty extreme and difficult due to the dog&#8217;s temperament, breed, and household dynamics with the established dog.</p>
<p>However, about the third lesson I had to ask the client how much she was working on the strategies I outlined. She was only working on them three days a week which was not working.</p>
<p>We outlined what she could do and then I didn&#8217;t see her as frequently because she had to hit specific goals before we could progress.</p>
<p>Bottom line, her behavior problems probably could have been extinguished in 12-16 weeks instead of the six months it took.</p>
<p>She was thrilled, me? Not so much because my goal is to extinguish that type of issue as quickly and as effectively as possible. There were lots of complications in this case&#8211;but ultimately the goal was achieved. </p>
<p>So that is the good news because that is my job. I also had to laugh when the client was reading books on training and told me that they said the same thing that I was teaching her.</p>
<p>LOL </p>
<p>You gotta laugh about it but I don&#8217;t always tell people my background.</p>
<p>Bottom line? Communication is key but so is sticking to the program outlined by your professional. So glad that you brought up the medical example&#8211;even the veterinary clinics see the same things.</p>
<p>My former client also was not compliant with the directives from the veterinarian&#8211;spent lots of money and visits because she wasn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Go figure!</p>
<p>PS I give my clients treats (and sometimes candy) but they also get squirted with water (after we establish a good rapport). This makes them laugh and get going a bit. It really is the human clients that need all the work.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Hunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 05:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, I&#039;m sure many people want to follow up with 
recommendations but then lack time or proper motivation
to follow through. There&#039;s not enough reinforcers present to
make it worth their while. (even if it seems like there should
be from the trainer&#039;s perspective!)

Sometimes it&#039;s probably a bit like taking antibiotics-- 
the doctor tells the patient to take the full 2 weeks worth 
of the drugs. But you start feeling better on day 8, so you 
start forgetting to take the drugs. 

If a client thinks significant progress has taken place already,
they might be less likely to finish up with the rest of the
intervention. As well, it&#039;s a lot easier to think short term
(I have ten million other things to do right now, can&#039;t spare
10 minutes) than to think long term (this will save me time, 
effort and money 6 months from now). 

Also, are the expectations reasonable? 
(And not just from the trainer&#039;s perspective, but also from the
client&#039;s perspective?) In one of the pre-agility classes I took
last spring, we were suppose to (as part of our homework) take
our dogs out in public settings to work on training 
(restaurants, petsmart, etc.) three times a week. 
??? ha! Must have seemed reasonable to the trainer, who works
with dogs for a living. Not as reasonable for a college student
who was also working part time. I was lucky if I got in once 
a week. And it&#039;s always harder to comply with expectations if 
they seem unattainable and too far fetched. 

Just a few thoughts. I can see how this issue would be 
maddening for you, though! 

Mary</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, I&#8217;m sure many people want to follow up with<br />
recommendations but then lack time or proper motivation<br />
to follow through. There&#8217;s not enough reinforcers present to<br />
make it worth their while. (even if it seems like there should<br />
be from the trainer&#8217;s perspective!)</p>
<p>Sometimes it&#8217;s probably a bit like taking antibiotics&#8211;<br />
the doctor tells the patient to take the full 2 weeks worth<br />
of the drugs. But you start feeling better on day 8, so you<br />
start forgetting to take the drugs. </p>
<p>If a client thinks significant progress has taken place already,<br />
they might be less likely to finish up with the rest of the<br />
intervention. As well, it&#8217;s a lot easier to think short term<br />
(I have ten million other things to do right now, can&#8217;t spare<br />
10 minutes) than to think long term (this will save me time,<br />
effort and money 6 months from now). </p>
<p>Also, are the expectations reasonable?<br />
(And not just from the trainer&#8217;s perspective, but also from the<br />
client&#8217;s perspective?) In one of the pre-agility classes I took<br />
last spring, we were suppose to (as part of our homework) take<br />
our dogs out in public settings to work on training<br />
(restaurants, petsmart, etc.) three times a week.<br />
??? ha! Must have seemed reasonable to the trainer, who works<br />
with dogs for a living. Not as reasonable for a college student<br />
who was also working part time. I was lucky if I got in once<br />
a week. And it&#8217;s always harder to comply with expectations if<br />
they seem unattainable and too far fetched. </p>
<p>Just a few thoughts. I can see how this issue would be<br />
maddening for you, though! </p>
<p>Mary</p>
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